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Geert Wilders on Trial: Testimony of Wafa Sultan

Thanks and a tip of the hat to Vlad Tepes for  embedding these informative videos.  In these two videos, with a total run time of 19:14, we hear the  chairman of the judicial panel reading from the testimony of expert witness Wafa Sultan.

I doubt that the judge was comfortable reading that content, but he made an obvious effort to avoid displaying his disgust. His relief is obvious when he finishes reading the testimony.  The defendant and his lawyer were obviously struggling to maintain decorum.  A few  audience members in the gallery were not so successful in maintaining  a straight face.  A good view of the prosecution side might have been priceless.

Unfortunately, the dry reading of her testimony lacks the passion with which Sultan drove her points home in an interview the day before her testimony.
[Wafa Sultan Interview ]

Though lacking the chapter & verse specificity of  previous testimony, Sultan confirms it  plus Fitna and Wilders’ statements.  She illustrated her testimony with examples from her own  experience in her early life in Syria.

If truth were a defense against the charges  on which Wilders is being tried, Sultan’s testimony would be devastating to the prosecution’s case. Had her testimony been  public and properly covered by the news media, it would be devastating to Islam.

Testimony of Wafa Sultan Part 1 12:01

Part 2  7:13!

October 13, 2010 Posted by | Islam Hijacked?, Political Correctness | , , , | Leave a comment

Wafa Sultan Interview

I received an email update from a blog about the case of Geert Wilders.  That email contained a link to a pair of videos of an interview with Wafa Sultan who was called as a witness for the defense.       Although Wafa Sultan is very articulate, it appears that her knowledge and passion outstrip her ability to communicate them.  Between her soft voice, my computer’s weak audio card and my hearing loss, I had difficulty with the audio.

When asked, she clearly states her admiration of Geert Wilders and support for his mission.  In the first video, the interviewer, who had obviously done some preparation, probed deeply for the circumstances of her apostasy.  That part is not easy listening but it is vital to understanding Wafa Sultan and her mission.

The dark side of Islam is exposed to view in the first video, though not in great detail.  Wafa Sultan emphasizes the need to read the Qur’an.  She exhorts both Muslims and non-Muslims to read it and the Sira.

The second video opens with scenes from the courtroom,  narrated in Dutch.  That is followed with sound bites from the first interview  further questions.  It iconsiderably shorter and ends with a brief sports segment.

A third vidio on the page consists of high lights  from the vain interview, it appears to be a second generation copy, with much lesser video quality, but the sound track is considerably stronger than that in the original. It, too loses some quality, and there is Arabic chanting  in the background.

That third video intersperses Islamic  counterpoints between the money quotes.  Unfortunately, al-taqiyya & Kitman are employed.  I will append a dissection  below the video.



  • Mr. Wilders is well known here for saying that Islam is a backward culture and he has said many times in public that as far as he is concerned, the Qur’an should be banned and people wearing head scarves should be taxed accordingly.
    • I one hundred percent agree with him.  the way they behave against non-Muslims–they are brainwashed to believe–indoctrinated to believe that their mission on earth is to take over and to force non-Muslims to become Muslim. The Islamic values don’t match with western values.  They’re not for freedom.
      • [Text display] The Truth  The Quran instructs Muslims to treat non-Muslims courteously in a spirit of kindness and generosity, given they are not hostile towards Muslims.
        • I can’t find that verse, but I did find these, which contradict that assertion: 38:28, 8:39, 9:29, 9:73.
      • “Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes–from dealing kindly and justly with them.  Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.  Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion–(forbids) that you make allies of them.  And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.” (Quran  60:8-9)
        • That tactic is called cherry picking, selecting  a verse out of context to distort the meaning.  Start reading at the first verse of the surah then go here and search for this expression: as friends.
  • You have said many times that you are fighting Islam, that you see Wilders as in that same group?
    • Yes he is, yes we’re not fighting Muslims, we are not against Muslims, Even Mr. Wilders has said that many many times.  We have to distinguish between Islam and Muslims, we are not against Muslims but we’re totally against Islam.
      • Does that make sense? not against Muslims, but against the Muslim religion, Islam??
      • If they are against our way of life ‘Islam’ then quite clearly they are against Muslims too!
        • I can not deny the fact that Sultan fell into a common logic trap.  It would be better to steer clear of p.c. altogether.
  • But if you’re saying that — you just said “I don’t have a problem with Muslims, I have a problem with Islam”, now it seems  that you have a problem with at least some Muslims.
    • No doubt about it.  I don’t want to generalize my attitude, of course I have problems with some Muslims.  But I don’t want to say every Muslim is a threat, that’s not fair. My Mother is a Muslim and she’s still stuck in Islam.   She is the most peaceful woman on earth, but she’s illiterate, she’s never read the Qur’an or the life of Muhammad. She practices Islam the way she heard  her mother and her grandmother talking about Islam. So that’s what I mean, I can not consider my mom as a threat.  But she doesn’t know much about Islam. But its about Muslims who know.
      • Now she says the problem is with the ‘literate’ Muslims who understand Islam & the Quran!
        • The problem is believing Muslims who understand and attempt to carry out Allah’s commands and emulate Muhammad.  To fully comprehend this, read 9:111.
      • But  Muslims who have no knowledge of Islam are ok! (according to her)
  • Do you –you said “I decided to fight Islam itself  not just extremism or Wahhabism but Islam itself?
    • Because I don’t believe there is radical Islam, I truly believe the term ‘radical Islam’  is Muslims trademark. The west invented this term for the sake of being politically correct.
    • Growing up in Syria I had  never heard of radical Islam, Wahhabi Islam, militant Islam, political Islam. I heard only of the one Islam, normal Islam.
  • And you say all Islam is bad?
    • No doubt about it. You know, there is no Qur’anic verse that says “don’t kill”.
        • Not in those words, but 4:93 tells Muslims not to kill believing Muslims.
      • According to Islam it is a great sin to kill an innocent person!
        • It is a great sin to kill a believing Muslim(4:93).  Only Muslims can be innocent. Disbelief is equated to waging war against Allah.  If you are not a Muslim, you are not innocent.
      • For that cause we decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or curruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind.  Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah’s Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth
        • Muslims love to quote 5:32, but never quote 5:33, which lists the punishments prescribed for those who wage war against Allah, which is defined to include disbelief.  .
    • Yeah, look, my mission is to create doubt about Islam for the sake of every country on earth–they need to be stopped. This is my message
  • And you say you are on a mission, when is the mission successful–mission accomplished?
    • I consider it successful from the very beginning  once you believe in something and you are determined to do it  you cannot succeed,[sic] eventually we will win I have no doubt…

July 20, 2010 Posted by | Political Correctness | , , | 3 Comments


CAIR Video: One Man’s Fight Against Islamophobia
CAIR’s National Executive Director, Nihad Awad was interviewed by Dan Harris of ABC News April 20, ’10, stemming from CAIR’s objection to an interview with Wafa Sultan.  I found this eight minute, 55 second video at Bare Naked Islam.

The video begins with  brief excerpts from a speech and interview with Wafa Sultan. I suspect that the excerpts come from the Freedom Defense Initiative  at CPAC in March. Video from that interview  was found at Atlas Shrugs.  The video confirmed  my suspicion. Of course, the only “islamophobia” in the video was in brief  cuts from her appearances on Al Jazeera.
I hope to select and transcribe the most egregious lies from Nihad Awad’s interview.  Do not assume that my transcription is word for word perfect, my hearing is poor, Awad speaks softly, and my computer’s sound card is weak.

Wafa Sultan was shown telling FDI that “We must deal with the evil of Islam right now” so that our children won’t have to deal with it…”so that the next generation can live in peace”.  Harris wanted to know what bothered Awad about that interview. .

“From the beginning we strongly believe in free speech. People are entitled to their opinions no matter how wrong they are. But when a person of this nature is interviewed and not challenged; is not opposed or there is no balance in  the presentation, you feel that something was missing and that the racist remarks she made and allegations that she made against Muslims as a whole defies logic–defies common sense and basic knowledge… people learn about Islam–they know about Islam–she just reinforces stereotypes and  mis-information and she was not challenged.”

Islam does not believe in free speech.  Islam forbids denial, questioning, sarcasm & reviling Allah, his messenger, the Qur’an and the doctrines derived from it.
Mentioning anything “impermissible”  about Islam is one of the violations of dhimma which can cause a dhimmi to lose his protection from Muslims and be killed. The list of attitudes and acts entailing apostasy is documented here;  the list of acts prohibited to dhimmis is documented here.

There was nothing inflammatory in the brief interview with Wafa Sultan. The closest she came to “Islamophobia” was in the clip from her speech at FDI when she mentioned “the evil of Islam”.  There wasn’t anything concrete to counter in that interview, which lacked ideological detail.

The allegation of racist remarks is absolutely unfounded.  Sultan explicitly stated that her opposition was to Islam, not to Muslims. Islam is not a race; it has enslaved and victimized people of several races.  What  allegations did she make “against Muslims as a whole”?  She said that Islam is evil, and it is.  Islam  is violent, ordaining warfare, praising self sacrifice in battle against disbelievers as the best deed. Allah sanctifies terrorism and demands genocide. Islam declared war, permanent war,  until the entire world is conquered.

Asked about intolerance, of which Islam is accused,  Awad replied:

” That is just dead wrong, because Islamic history shows different than what people claim and the Qur’an…the best answer is from the Qur’an, otherwise, if you hear from someone as he would say… trying to spin the issue… the Qur’an emphasizes freedom, freedom of thought and religion…’let there be no compulsion in religion’ this comes direct from the Qur’an, nobody can misunderstand it, nobody can misinterpret it.  You can not force people to believe and act … these are the words in the Qur’an. “

Islamic history shows extreme intolerance. I refer to the Pact of  Umar. Hitler did not invent distinctive clothing for Jews, he adopted it from Islam. 3:85 clearly declares that choosing a religion other than Islam will never be accepted. Muslims are instructed, when encountering Jews & Christians on the road, not to gree them first and to shove them into the ditch.  Doubt me? Then look it up: Sunan Abu Dawud 41.5186.

“No compulsion…” comes from 2:256. 3:110 declares believing Muslims to be the “best of peoples”; the meaning of that verse is explained in Sahih Bukhari 6.60.80 : ” means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam. “.

Asked about the treatment of women in KSA, for example:

” You have to differentiate between culture and religion and sometimes there is a big difference between the two. My understanding of my faith … women are not only protected but they can be leaders in the Muslim World, when you look at Pakistan, Turkey and Bangladesh, they can be leaders in the Muslim world. “

Awad is playing a subtle semantic game.  Islam is not a religion, it is a deen: way of life.  It encompasses all aspects of human activity, culture included.  Women are chattel  property, “tilth“, literally a field to be plowed and seeded. They are inferior to men, deemed deficient. Moe had something pertinent to say about female rulers : When Allah’s Apostle was informed that the Persians had crowned the daughter of Khosrau as their ruler, he said, “Such people as ruled by a lady will never be successful.”

Asked about the aftermath of 9-11; Islamophobia :

“Our job is getting more difficult every day although we see a new tone in the  new administration, we see a hand extended to the Muslim world, …we see a positive speech toward Muslims and a tone of reconciliation; but I believe the situation overall is getting worse. Islamophobia  is being accelerated in the United States, I haven’t seen clergy or political leader who stands up and pushes against bigotry against Muslims. “

“Islamophobia” implies irrational fear and loathing of Islam.  After 9-11, considering the untimely deaths of approximately 270*106 people in the last 1400 years, fear and loathing of Islam is not irrational. Muslims label well documented blog posts such as this “Islamophobia”.

If the media were more responsible, and our leaders were better, isn’t your job made more difficult by the identity of the terrorists …

“Its important to recognize that the majority of Muslims and organizations including ours, leaders and clergy in the United States and around the world have condemned 9-11 and I believe we were the first organization on the face of the earth to condemn 9-11 but months and years after that we are always confronted on some national television show: ‘where are the moderate Muslims–where is the condemnation’ and we say we did, but who is listening? Which national network has displayed or communicated or shown our condemnation?  I think our voices are somehow excluded and ignored because as we say ‘if it bleeds, it leads’ .  Maybe our statements are not amusing to the ear of people who are accustomed to seeing violence on television but they do not see Muslim leaders coming to condemn this violence.  We are condemning the violence, but we do not want to be defined by condemning violence.  There are seven million Muslims  in the United States.  There are engineers, doctors, public servants, educators,  they do great work to make America better every day; I’d like to see stories about these people …  I do not want to see my faith, which has been hijacked by a very tiny minority in the world, to be defined by their acts while the majority of us are having to stand up and condemn the acts of the few. “

So they condemned the attack on the World Trade Center. Wonderful, now we should form a circle, hold hands and sing Kumbaya.  Yeah, right.  Malicious malarkey!  They condemn attacks on “innocents”; another semantic game tactic.  Only Muslims can be innocent.  Anyone who is not Muslim is a rebel against Allah, who deserves to be killed.  5:33 prescribes hudud for those who “wage war against Allah”.  That expression is defined in Ibn Kathir’s tafsir of that verse:

“`Wage war’ mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways. “.

Take note of the word I highlighted in that definition; disbelief = waging war against Allah.  They will not denounce, condemn and abjure the damnable doctrines which sanctify and mandate offensive conquest, genocide & terrorism because that would be an act entailing apostasy.

Seven minutes and forty eight seconds into the interview, Awad tells the big lie: ” I do not want to see my faith, which has been hijacked by a very tiny minority in the world, to be defined by their acts while the majority of us are having to stand up and condemn the acts of the few. ”

Islam has not been hijacked. As previously documented, casting terror is an intrinsic sacrament of Islam and offensive conquest is a permanent mandate, in the course of which genocide must be performed.  The founder of Islam was a terrorist.  Have you read the Qur’an?  Try 33:26-27.  Even if you never read another hadith, read Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220.

Eight minutes and twelve seconds into the interview,  asked if he gets threats, Awad answers in the affirmative, during which statement, he is framed in the camera’s viewfinder as if to simulate the view through an assassin’s telescopic rifle sight.  he says that when he speaks sincerely, from his heart people listen and believe him.   Those must be rare occasions, rare indeed.

April 23, 2010 Posted by | Political Correctness | , , , , | Leave a comment


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