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Reply to Ryan on What’s Wrong With Islam/Muslims?

The true nature of Islam: a continuing criminal enterprise which propagates perpetual warfare for profit while camouflaged by a  false mantle of religion, is mired in a deep and extensive swamp of denial. I repeatedly attack this issue because it is necessary to drain the swamp one drop at a time.

What’s Wrong With Islam/Muslims? at Islamophobia: Exposing Malicious Malarkey received a visit from Ryan, who left a comment which merits a  better reply  than a simple comment.  Likening my analysis to dog excrement, he  made three points. [Typographical errors original.]

1.) Jihad means “struggle”. That is the literal arabic interpretation of the word. What is more, there have bbeen cases of jihad being conducted AGAINST OTHER MUSLIMS. Not to mentioon that there are muslim scholars who disagree with the definition provided in reliance of a traveller (which is one of many jurisprudence manuals). And there are four types of jihad, and jihad follows set rules (don’t kill civillians, don’t attack civillian targets).

2.) You claim that 60:1 is clear proof muslims aren’t allowed to befriend non musims. verses 60:8 and 60:9 disagree. There are even verses in the quran which state that jews and christians can go to heaven.

3.) You make the mistake of assuming that all islamic manuals agree on what defines jihad. The truth is a hell of lot more complex, and there are scholars who have had differing interpetations. Just because a few guys have that interpreation odesn’t mean all scholars do.


  1. When words are translated into actions, the actions give us the clearest possible indication of their meaning.  Turn to page 385 of Guillaume’s translation of The Life of Muhammad, where the story of  Amr   is retold. “He came to the apostle and told him that his sons wanted to keep him back and prevent his joining the army, ‘Yet by God, I hope to tread the heavenly garden despite my lameness.’ The apostle said, ‘God has excused you, and Jihad is not incumbent on you;’ and to his sons he said, ‘You need not prevent him; perhaps God will favour him with martyrdom,’ so he went along with him and was killed at Uhud.” A parallel story is found in Sahih Bukhari 4.52.84, explaining 4:95, which exempts the lame and blind.
    There are 178 instances of “raid” in the Life of Muhammad, and 27 instances of “conquest”.
  2. A search for “take not” in the Noble Qur’an [Hilali & Khan] returns 7 Surahs; these are the ayat prohibiting positive relations with Kuffar: 3:118, 4: 89144, 5: 51, 57, 9:23, 60: 1, 13.  Moe curses us in 2:161 & 9:30Sahih Muslim 6665 & 6666 say that Allah will take Muslims out of the fire, replacing them with Jews and Christians.
  3. Jihad is covered in Ch 30 of Al-Risala, Maliki Fiqh and Al-Hedaya, Vol II, Book IX, Hanifi Fiqh.  Which of them contradicts Reliance significantly? This article samples 4 schools of jurisprudence.  Will you accept the opinion of Prof. Salih Al-Fawzan?  For a broader sample of ancient and modern Fiqh concerning jihad, see the Jihad in Fiqh chapter of FOMIJihad.chm.

The meaning of jihad is not dependent on any single scholar. It becomes clear when we perceive the congruent pattern formed by Moe’s recitation & sunnah.

Surah Al-Anfal treats of perpetual wars of aggression against pagans, the termination of which is conditioned on the cessation of resistance and a global monopoly for Islam.  (8:39:1) And fight them waqātilūhum

Surah At-Taubah treats of perpetual wars of aggression against ‘people of the book’, the termination of which is conditioned on subjugation and extortion.
(9:29:1) Fight qātilū

Get a God blessed clue!

waqātilūhum (وَقَٰتِلُوهُمْ) verb (2)
2nd person masculine plural (form III) imperative verb (فعل أمر)
  • (2:193:1) … And fight (against) them …
  • (8:39:1) … And fight them …
qātilū (قَٰتِلُوا۟) verb (3)
2nd person masculine plural (form III) imperative verb (فعل أمر)
  • (3:167:7) … fight …
  • (9:29:1) … Fight …
  • (9:123:4) … Fight …

Moe said something about that.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”

The Qur’an contains two parallel fight-until loops and the hadith has a similar loop reflecting them.  Is that mere coincidence?  Get a God blessed clue!

The first raid: on Waddan 281
Hamza’s raid to the coast 283
Raid on Buwat 285
Raid on al-‘Ushayra 285
Raid on al-Kharrar 286
Raid on Safawan 286
Fighting in the sacred month 286
The change of the Qibla 289
Battle of Badr 289
Zaynab sets out for Medina 314
Abu’l-‘As accepts Islam 316
‘Umayr b. Wahb accepts Islam 318
The chapter of The Spoils 321
Raid on B. Sulaym 360
Raid called al-Sawiq 361
Raid on Dhu Amarr 362
Raid on al-Furu’ 362
Attack on B. Qaynuqa’ 363
Raid on al-Qarada 364
Killing of Ka’b b. al-Ashraf 364
Muhayyisa and Huwayyisa 369
Battle of Uhud 370
The Quran on UQud 391

That is a significant sample of the table of contents of Part III of The Life of Muhammad.  What was Moe commanded to do?  What did he do??  Do you remain clueless???

Muslim apologists will assert that Moe only fought defensively, citing 2:190 and  22:39.   What? Does “fight them until” only apply after they attack Muslims?  Get a God blessed clue!

Moe dictated and dispatched extortion letters.  This is among the most explicit thereof.


In the name of ALLAH the compassionate, the Merciful

From Muhammad, Prophet of Allah

To the People of Aqaba

May peace be on you. I praise Allah who is one and except whom there is nobody else to be worshipped.

I do not intend to wage war against you till you receive my written reason for it. It is better for you, either to accept Islam or agree to pay Jiziya and consent to remain obedient to Allah, His prophet and his messengers. My messengers deserve honour. Treat them with respect. Whatever pleases my messengers, will also please me.

These people have been informed of the orders about Jiziya. If you desire that there should be peace and security in the world, obey Allah and His Prophet. Thereafter none in Arabia and Ajam (Iran) shall dare cast an evil eye on you. But the rights of Allah and His Prophet can at no time be waived.

If you do not accept these terms and set them aside, I do not need your presents and gifts. In that case, I shall have to wage war (to establish peace and security). Its result would be that the big ones shall be killed in war and the commoners shall be taken prisoners.

I assure you that I am a true Prophet of Allah. I believe in Allah, and His Books, and His Prophets and am of the faith that Maseeh (Messiah) son of Mariam (Mary), is a Prophet of Allah and His word.

Hurmala (Raziallah AnhoA.) who brought to me 3 wasaq (about 6 quintals) of barley, recommended your case. Had it not been in compliance of the command of Allah and the good opinion of Hurmala for you, it would not have been necessary for me to correspond with you and instead of it, there would have been a war. If you will obey my messengers, you shall immediately have my support and the help and support of everyone who is attached to me.

My messengers are Shuraih-beel, Obaiy, Hurmala and Hurais (Raziallah AnhoA.) and whatever decision they take in respect of you, shall be acceptable to me.

Your people are under the protection and responsibility of Allah and His Prophet.

Supply provisions to the Jews of Maqna, for their journey to their country.

If you accept obedience, may peace be on you.’

Seal: Allah’s Prophet Muhammad .

Moe sent an extortion letter to the Jews at the Khaibar Oasis. Then he sent his army. Who started that war? Did the Jews attack first?

January 20, 2011 Posted by | Islam, Political Correctness | , , | 1 Comment

Islamic Deception: Cherry Picking

Omar Sley, of Egypt posted a lengthy comment on the International Qur’an Petition. I have dissected the comment into its main points for the sake of legibility and to facilitate my responses.

  • Islam = Peace and hormony [sic]

The literal meaning of Islam is submission. Submit to Allah and to us or we will attack you. This fact becomes clear when we read the extortion letters which Moe dictated to scribes and dispatched by private courier. Read his letter to the Chiefs of Aqaba, from which the following quote is taken.

I do not intend to wage war against you till you receive my written reason for it. It is better for you, either to accept Islam or agree to pay Jiziya and consent to remain obedient to Allah, His prophet and his messengers..

  • “…..if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people”

The quote is from 5:32, which Muslims love to quote. Why don’t they continue the context by quoting  5:33, which prescribes hudud for “waging war against Allah” ?

The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. …

What is the meaning of “wage war against Allah”?  Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir answers this question ” …`Wage war’ mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways…”.   If you don’t believe in Allah, Muslims are free to kill or mutilate you because you are waging war against Allah.

  • Nor can goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: Then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate! “

The quote is from 41:34.  Omar wants us to assume that Islam operates by gentle persuasion, like Christianity. Nothing could be further from the truth, as proved by the extortion letter quoted above.

  • Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) said : “Kindness is a mark of faith, and whoever is not kind has no faith.”

This diversion from Islamic violence is likely to succeed because most non-Muslims are unaware of Islamic duality. Islamic mercy, kindness & charity are for Muslims only.

  • The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said : “One who kills a non-Muslim person under protection (Arabic: dhimmi) will not even smell the fragrance of Paradise.”

Those “under protection” were either conquered  or intimidated by Moe’s extortion letters. They lived a sub-human existence of humiliation and extortionate taxation, deprived of  civil rights.  If you are not living under Muslim rule, you are not protected, you are subject to open season.

  • ” Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.” 60:8

Keep reading,  five more ayat to the contradiction..

60:13. O you who believe! Take not as friends the people who incurred the Wrath of Allâh (i.e. the Jews). Surely, they have been in despair to receive any good in the Hereafter, just as the disbelievers have been in despair about those (buried) in graves (that they will not be resurrected on the Day of Resurrection).

  • Even during war he was teaching us to be civilized and merciful to the innocents : Muhammad, pbuh, has set a very well defined path for warriors to follow. During the sending off the Muslim army to a battle, the prophet issued the following ‘battle field code of conduct’: “You shall not break a promise you make, you shall not mutilate the dead”, and “You shall not kill an elder, a child or a woman”. He gave clear instructions not to kill the injured and unarmed enemy members (equivalent to army civilians, and non-combat support troops in modern times).

The rules of warfare were laid out in Sahih Muslim 19.4294. Omar wants us to assume that the proscription on killing women and children is moral. In fact, the proscription is economic, because the women and children are enslaved, they are property for Muslims; part of the booty.  Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir of 33:27 hints at this. “…(a group you killed, and a group you made captives.) Those who were killed were their warriors, and the prisoners were their children and women….”

Two provisions of Islamic law are crucial to comprehending the deception involved in Omar’s cherry picking. These are from Reliance of The Traveller.[Emphasis added.]


Whoever enters Islam before being captured may not be killed or his property confiscated, or his young children taken captive.


When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.

It was asserted that Moe was civilized and merciful to the innocents. Give a close and careful examination to the following hadith to discover the falsity of that assertion.

Sunan Abu Dawud Book 38, Number 4390:
Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

September 20, 2009 Posted by | Political Correctness | , , , , | Leave a comment


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