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Ahmadiyya: Peaceful Islam; Fact or Fiction?


The following quote comes from Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam: http://aaiil.org/ .

The main object of this Movement is to present the true, original message of Islam to the whole world — Islam as it is found in the Holy Quran and the life of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), obscured today by grave misconceptions and wrong popular notions.

Islam seeks to attract the hearts and minds of people towards the truth, by means of reasoning, good moral example, and the natural beauty of its principles. It neither aspires to gain political power, nor allows the use of force in support of the faith.

How will we know Islam as found in the Qur’an without reading it? How will we know the Profit’s life without reading his Sira & Sunnah? The quotation contains one egregious lie which I am compelled to expose to the world.

  • It neither aspires to gain political power, nor allows the use of force in support of the faith.
    • Islam does not aspire to temporal power.
    • Islam does not allow the use of force in support of the faith.

Islam aspires to gain political power: total world domination. I do not ask you to take my word for this fact, I have sufficient evidence to prove it. I quote from The Noble Qur’an, translated by Hilali & Khan. I link to ten parallel translations at http://www.quranbrowser.com. Tafsir references are to Ibn Kathir.

  • 13:41. See they not that We gradually reduce the land (of disbelievers, by giving it to the believers, in war victories) from its outlying borders. And Allâh judges, there is none to put back His Judgment and He is Swift at reckoning.
  • 21:44. Nay, We gave the luxuries of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them. See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will overcome.
  • 24:55. Allâh has promised those among you who believe, and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession to (the present rulers) in the earth, as He granted it to those before them, and that He will grant them the authority to practise their religion, that which He has chosen for them (i.e. Islâm). And He will surely give them in exchange a safe security after their fear (provided) they (believers) worship Me and do not associate anything (in worship) with Me. But whoever disbelieved after this, they are the Fâsiqûn (rebellious, disobedient to Allâh).
    • This is a promise from Allah to His Messenger that He would cause his Ummah to become successors on earth, i.e., they would become the leaders and rulers of mankind, through whom He would reform the world and to whom people would submit, so that they would have in exchange a safe security after their fear. This is what Allah did indeed do, may He be glorified and exalted, and to Him be praise and blessings. For He did not cause His Messenger to die until He had given him victory over Makkah, Khaybar, Bahrayn, all of the Arabian Peninsula and Yemen; and he took Jizyah from the Zoroastrians of Hajar and from some of the border lands of Syria; and he exchanged gifts with Heraclius the ruler of Byzantium, the ruler of Egypt and Alexandria, the Muqawqis, the kings of Oman and An-Najashi of Abyssinia, who had become king after Ashamah, may Allah have mercy on him and grant him honor…. Allah’s Promise to the Believers that He would grant them Succession
  • 9:33. It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islâm), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh) hate (it).

Allah commands Muslims to fight pagans until only Allah is worshiped. He commands them to fight people with scriptural religions until they are subjugated and make annual extortion payments.

  • 8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.
  • 9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Only Allah has the right to be worshiped.

  • 2:255. Allâh! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter . And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursî extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayat-ul-Kursî.]
  • 23:116. So Exalted be Allâh, the True King, Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Lord of the Supreme Throne!

By this we learn that Allah is supreme, he rules the world. If any doubt remains after 24:55, then examine this crystal clear gem of exposure.

Clearly, the assertion that Islam seeks no temporal power is absolutely false, by the ample testimony of Allah and his Messenger!

Islam not only allows, but mandates offensive violence in obtaining temporal power. I do not ask you to take my word for this, I have ample evidence in Islam’s canon of scripture, tradition, jurisprudence & exegeses.

Jihad is mandated by Surah Al-Baqarah 216.

  • 2:216. Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.
    • In this Ayah, Allah made it obligatory for the Muslims to fight in Jihad against the evil of the enemy who transgress against Islam. Az-Zuhri said, “Jihad is required from every person, whether he actually joins the fighting or remains behind. Whoever remains behind is required to give support, if support is warranted; to provide aid, if aid is needed; and to march forth, if he is commanded to do so. If he is not needed, then he remains behind.”… Jihad is made Obligatory

Caution is required in reading that tafsir. this clause the evil of the enemy who transgress against Islam might seem to indicate that the mandate is strictly defensive. Transgression against Isnam is not so narrowly defined. I direct your attention to the Tafsir of 5:33.

  • (The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land.) `Wage war‘ mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways…. The Punishment of those Who Cause Mischief in the Land

Disbelief in Allah is sufficient to subject you to the listed hudud. It is also sufficient to make you a victim of offensive warfare. The primary Jihad imperatives are contained in Al-Anfal 39 and At-Taubah 29 which are quoted above. Al Anfal 60 commands Muslims to maintain strength and preparation for war. Hilali & Khan go slightly overboard in contemporizing in their parenthetic commentary.

  • 8:60. And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery, etc.) to threaten the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides whom, you may not know but whom Allah does know. And whatever you shall spend in the Cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you, and you shall not be treated unjustly.

At-Taubah 123 confirms the earlier imperatives.

  • 9:123. O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allâh is with those who are the Al-Muttaqûn (the pious – see V.2:2).

Those imperatives are not anachronistic. Jihad will be performed continuously from the beginning of Moe’s mission to Judgment Day. Jihad is the Muslim’s ‘original religion’; they will be cursed if they abandon it.

  • Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 2526Narrated Anas ibn Malik:

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, “There is no god but Allah” and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

  • Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455:

    Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

    I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.

Shari’ah, Islam’s canon of jurisprudence, is based primarily on the Qur’an & hadith. Umdat as-Salik contains some vital information which confirms what I have revealed to you. I quote from Umdat as-Salik. Book O, Chapter 9.

O9.1: The Obligatory Character of Jihad

Jihad is a communal obligation (def: c3.2). When enough people perform it to successfully accomplish it, it is no longer obligatory upon others (O: the evidence for which is the Prophet’s saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),

“He who provides the equipment for a soldier in jihad has himself performed jihad,”

and Allah Most High having said:

“Those of the believers who are unhurt but sit behind are not equal to those who fight in Allah’s path with their property and lives. Allah has preferred those who fight with their property and lives a whole degree above those who sit behind. And to each, Allah has promised great good” (Koran 4:95).

If none of those concerned perform jihad, and it does not happen at all, then everyone who is aware that it is obligatory is guilty of sin, if there was a possibility of having performed it. In the time of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) jihad was a communal obligation after his emigration (hijra) to Medina. As for subsequent times, there are two possible states in respect to non-Muslims.

The first is when they are in their own countries, in which case jihad (def: o9.8) is a communal obligation, and this is what our author is speaking of when he says, “Jihad is a communal obligation,” meaning upon the Muslims each year.

The second state is when non-Muslims invade a Muslim country or near to one, in which case jihad is personally obligatory (def: c3.2) upon the inhabitants of that country, who must repel the non-Muslims with whatever they can).

O9.8: The Objectives of Jihad

The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,

“Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled” (Koran 9.29),…

. Take note of the last highlighted phrase in O9.1: meaning upon the Muslims each year. What does it mean? Could it possibly mean that offensive Jihad against Kuffar must be performed at least once each year until Dar al-Harb is entirely conquered? Al-Shaffi’i & Al-Ghazali agree on this essential matter of Shari’ah.

Al-Shafi’i (God have mercy on him) said: “The least that the imam must do is that he allow no year to pass without having organised a military expedition by himself, or by his raiding parties, according to the Muslims’ interest, so that the jihad will only be stopped in a year for a (reasonable) excuse.” He said: “If he did not undertake the sending of enough troops to fight, those who are absent (must) go out, and consider as an obligation that which God (who is praised) said.” I said: “What I have mentioned showed that if a group was needed to carry out an expedition, [f. 175 a] our duty was incumbent on all of them.

Below is what Al-Ghazali actually wrote about jihad war, and the treatment of the vanquished non-Muslim dhimmi peoples (from the Wagjiz, written in 1101 A.D.): …one must go on jihad (i.e., warlike razzias or raids) at least once a year…one may use a catapult against them [non-Muslims] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set fire to them and/or drown them…If a person of the Ahl al-Kitab [People of The Book – Jews and Christians, typically] is enslaved, his marriage is [automatically] revoked…One may cut down their trees…One must destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever they decide…they may steal as much food as they need…

Scoffers & skeptics are diredted to click these tafsir titles and read the tafsir which confirm the obvious. Therein you will discover the roots of supremacism, triumphalism & offensive Jihad.

February 22, 2009 Posted by | Political Correctness, Religion, Religion of Peace | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 2 Comments

Analencephalopathy Exposed


Ema Nymton said…
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PackSmack,

How is your collection of Mexican paintings on black-velvet doing?

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“And don’t use your low opinion of Ben or myself to judge the qualifications of the doctrine; as Ben says, a creed is not disqualfied by ‘its heretics.’ Flee, Islam. It has nothing to offer you.”

So now you say you and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul are heretics? Ya, heretics from reality.

The issue is your and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul’s calling for the killing of unarmed and defenseless citizens of USA, Canada, and the rest of the world who have done you no harm. You and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul allow your unnatural fear and hatred of others to turn you into deeply soul-less individuals. You have no faith, no beliefs.

You follow of an extremely warped interpretation of the writings of Islam. You will not lie yourself to the truth.

“Get a clue, for Chrissake!” again with this blasphemy. Nothing you call for is for the sake of Jesus. Stop using JC’s name. Your murderous cries to kill people are insane and come from your fear, not faith.

&@8o?
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  • “And don’t use your low opinion of Ben or myself to judge the qualifications of the doctrine; as Ben says, a creed is not disqualfied by ‘its heretics.’ Flee, Islam. It has nothing to offer you.”

    So now you say you and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul are heretics? Ya, heretics from reality.

Here we have an excellent example of Non sequitur, a token of combined idiocy & dishonesty.  Christians who blow up abortion clinics or shoot the butchers who staff them are heretics.  Muslims who advocate peace are heretics.

Unlike Ema, we are not Muslims, we curse & condemn Islam, exposing its evil core at every opportunity.  The reality is Islam’s nature: pure, unmitigated evil; mercenary & martial as I proved by the preponderance of evidence in the post to which Ema attached her idiotic comment.   Ema ignores objective factual reality because it does not comport with her prejudice.

  • The issue is your and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul’s calling for the killing of unarmed and defenseless citizens of USA, Canada, and the rest of the world who have done you no harm.

This excerpt is the perfect example of the straw man argument. We do not call for killing. We demand the eradication of Islam. Islam can be eradicated by killing Allah’s slaves, but no western government is willing to undertake that mission, which is the less humane alternative. Islam can be eradicated by emancipating those of Allah’s slaves who are not perfect zombies, who still retain some vestigial morality combined with killing the recalcitrant remnant of Mujahid zombies.  Unfortunately, no western government has the requisite balls & spine to accept that mission.  We are educating our fellow citizens in the hope that they will recognize the real, proximate & persistent existential threat posed by Islam and join us in demanding effective national defense against it.

We do not call for killing “unarmed and defenseless” Americans or Canadians. We disrespectfully demand the deportation of all Muslims and closing our borders to Muslims.

We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam is not a ‘religion of peace’; Islam is a war cult.  Islam’s mission is total world conquest, its tactics are genocide & terrorism.  The ‘original religion’ of Islam is Jihad. We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam declared and is prosecuting war against us.

We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam is inimical to liberty: Islam is slavery; Muslims are Allah’s slaves, purchased to kill and be killed fighting to make his word dominant.  We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam denys human equality, assigning women to the status of chattel and Jews & Christians to dhimmitude, less than second class citizenship; to be humiliated, tormented and subjugated. We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam denys the sanctity of our lives.

We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam is tyrannical;  inimical to representative government.

We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that every Muslim is a threat to our lives & liberties because he is Allah’s slave, purchased to conquer us, commanded to kill, terrify, torment, humiliate, subjugate & enslave us. Allah’s commands are clear, contained in clear verses, which are to be believed and implemented.

In Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir, you can see Allah’s damnable commands, together with hadith which confirm them & the Qadi’s confirmation of their obvious meaning. Ibn Kathir spent his entire adult life studying and teaching that excrement so we don’t need to.  Read them and curse Islam.

In Umdat as-Salik, you can see the codification of Allah’s damnable imperatives in Islamic law O9.1 tells Muslims that offensive Jihad is a communal obligation binding upon them, to be carried out at least once in every year. O9.8 tells Muslims that the Caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians and cites the ayeh bearing the curse worthy command upon which it is founded. O9.9 tells Muslims that the Caliph makes war on all other peoples until they become Muslim.  There is a search engine in the upper document frame. Enter the letter & number in the search window and read the applicable law in context, then you will curse Islam if you have a soul.

If you think those commands are apocryphal, metaphorical, or limited chronologically or geographically, then you are an ignorant damn fool.  The Qur’an is  Allah’s perfected, immutable law which never expires. It is timeless, and Jihad continues until Judgment Day!

If you think that those commands do not mean exactly what they say, read the books of Jihad & Expedition in the various hadith collections; see what Moe did and said relative to Jihad; then, if you have a soul, you will curse Islam.

Besides being literalistic & absolutist, Islam is supremacist & triumphalist. Once again, Ibn Kathir is my witness.

  • You and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul allow your unnatural fear and hatred of others to turn you into deeply soul-less individuals. You have no faith, no beliefs.

Aversion to bloodthirsty barbarians is not unnatural. Hatred of Moe’s War Cult is well warranted by the facts of history as well as the cult’s damnable doctrines & practices.  Our own faith, beliefs & practices or lack thereof is completely irrelevant to any debate about Moe’s War Cult.

  • You follow of an extremely warped interpretation of the writings of Islam. You will not lie yourself to the truth.

You are the one who follows Moe, we reject his doctrines & practices, recognizing Satan’s deceptions.  Moe, as the Qur’an’s reciter, is the only person empowered to interpret it. Moe’s actions on the battlefield and related sayings, recorded in Islam’s oral tradition (hadith) confirm the obvious.  Allah’s damnable imperatives are clear, requiring no interpretation. Ibn Kathir confirms the obvious. Maududi ignores Jihad, detailing Jizya. Yusuf Ali emulates Maududi, Jalalayn & Ibn Abbas only translate the verse, offering no exegeses because the meaning is obvious. I do not interpret Islam, I rely on the face of the text, as confirmed by Islam’s own experts.

  • “Get a clue, for Chrissake!” again with this blasphemy. Nothing you call for is for the sake of Jesus. Stop using JC’s name. Your murderous cries to kill people are insane and come from your fear, not faith.

Once again, Ema erects and kicks a straw man.  It would be better if she did not defecate on the straw, the stench is horrible. Who blasphemes Jesus? Your beloved al-insal al-kamil, the perfect man.

Who is Jesus Christ? Is he the son of God?

  • 23:91. No son (or offspring or children) did Allâh beget, nor is there any ilâh (god) along with Him; (if there had been many gods), behold, each god would have taken away what he had created, and some would have tried to overcome others! Glorified be Allâh above all that they attribute to Him!

Is Jesus divine?

  • 3:61. Then whoever disputes with you concerning him [‘Iesa (Jesus)] after (all this) knowledge that has come to you, [i.e. ‘Iesa (Jesus)] being a slave of Allâh, and having no share in Divinity) say: (O Muhammad ) “Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves – then we pray and invoke (sincerely) the Curse of Allâh upon those who lie.”

Was Jesus crucified, did he die; was he resurrected?

  • 4:157. And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed Messiah ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allâh,” – but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of ‘Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:

    4:158. But Allâh raised him [‘Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allâh is Ever All­Powerful, All­Wise.

Was Jesus a pacifist or a warmonger?

  • 61:14. O you who believe! Be you helpers (in the Cause) of Allâh as said ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), to Al­Hawârîûn (the disciples): “Who are my helpers (in the Cause) of Allâh?” Al­Hawârîeen (the disciples) said: “We are Allâh’s helpers” (i.e. we will strive in His Cause!). Then a group of the Children of Israel believed and a group disbelieved. So We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, and they became the uppermost.

Is Jesus benign & beneficent or a genocidal warmonger?

  • Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310:

    Narrated AbuHurayrah:

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.

  • In the future, the Jews will support the Dajjal (False Messiah); and the Muslims, along with `Isa, son of Mary, will kill the Jews. This will occur just before the end of this world. Eternal Humiliation placed on the Jews

Who is superior, with the closest relationship to & influence with God, Jesus or Moe?

  • Go to Moses, the slave to whom Allah spoke (directly) and gave him the Torah .’ So they will go to him and he will say, ‘I am not fit for this undertaking.’ and he will mention (his) killing a person who was not a killer, and so he will feel ashamed thereof before his Lord, and he will say, ‘Go to Jesus, Allah’s Slave, His Apostle and Allah’s Word and a Spirit coming from Him. Jesus will say, ‘I am not fit for this undertaking, go to Muhammad the Slave of Allah whose past and future sins were forgiven by Allah.’ So they will come to me and I will proceed till I will ask my Lord’s Permission and I will be given permission. When I see my Lord, I will fall down in Prostration and He will let me remain in that state as long as He wishes and then I will be addressed.’ (Muhammad!) Raise your head. Ask, and your request will be granted; say, and your saying will be listened to; intercede, and your intercession will be accepted.’  Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 3


  • Your murderous cries to kill people are insane and come from your fear, not faith.

I make no cries to kill, Moe did enough of that. I call for the extinction of Moe’s War Cult. Usher the Imams, Mullahs, Sheikhs, Mujahideen and others who will cling blindly to the damnable doctrines of Islam into Hell.  Emancipate those of Allah’s slaves who are not complete zombies.

I make this call because of the fatal fact, which I have proved with ample evidence from Islam’s own canon, that Islam is perpetually violent, a real, proximate & persistent threat to life & liberty.
Q.E.D
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Throughout this document, I have quoted the Hilali & Khan translation of the Noble Qur’an, linking each ayeh to a non-Muslim site which displays ten translations in parallel so that you can compare them and examine the context. http://www.quranbrowser.com also has a search engine so that you can search the various Qur’an translations.  I have quoted various hadith, in each case linking to one of the hadith collections at USC-MSA, an Islamic site, which is the source for most of the on line hadith sites.  I have quoted Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir, linking each quote to http://www.tafsir.com, an Islamic site so that you may verify the quote and examine the context.  If you desire to search Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir, go to Qtafsir, which features the same text plus a search engine. If you need to search the hadith, go to Islaamnet.

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February 17, 2009 Posted by | Political Correctness, Religion of Peace | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Instruments of Love and Harmony #3


From Zenit.org comes Final Statement of Catholic-Muslim Forum “Called to Be Instruments of Love and Harmony”
For background information about the meetings, see this Reuters article of 11/06/08.

The statement includes an enumerated list of fifteen points which present a target rich environment In this installment, I’ll take on the third point  of agreement.[Links & emphasis added.]

Human dignity is derived from the fact that every human person is created by a loving God out of love, and has been endowed with the gifts of reason and free will, and therefore enabled to love God and others. On the firm basis of these principles, the person requires the respect of his or her original dignity and his or her human vocation.

Therefore, he or she is entitled to full recognition of his or her identity and freedom by individuals, communities and governments, supported by civil legislation that assures equal rights and full citizenship.

Lets commence with an examination of what Moe had to say about free will. This will be familiar from the first installment. 

The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, ‘Allah, the Blessed, the Exalted, created Adam. Then He stroked his back with His right hand, and progeny issued from it. He said, “I created these for the Garden and they will act with the behaviour of the people of the Garden.” Then He stroked his back again and brought forth progeny from him. He said, “I created these for the Fire and they will act with the behaviour of the people of the Fire.” ‘A man said, ‘Messenger of Allah! Then of what value are deeds?’ The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, answered, ‘When Allah creates a slave for the Garden, he makes him use the behaviour of the people of the Garden, so that he dies on one of the actions of the people of the Garden and by it He brings him into the Garden. When He creates a slave for the Fire, He makes him use the behaviour of the people of the Fire, so that he dies on one of the actions of the people of the Fire, and by it, He brings him into the Fire.’ “[Malik’s Muwatta Book 46, Number 46.1.2]

In Moe’s creation myth, Allah makes two statements about this matter.

  • “I created these for the Garden and they will act with the behaviour of the people of the Garden.”
  • “I created these for the Fire and they will act with the behaviour of the people of the Fire.”

So much for free will in Islam, it is obviated. He made some for the fire, they will not be guided, they will be confirmed in their sins unto eternal damnation.

  • And Allah does not guide the disbelieving people. 2:264
  • Allah will not guide them and theirs will be a painful torment.  16:104

Concerning dignity, is there any without free will or without the sanctity of life?  Remember what Moe said about the sanctity of our lives?

  • I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Bukhari 1.8.387

We don’t have free will, we are either saint’s or sinners by arbitrary assignment and our lives are not sacred to Muslims unless we are Muslims.  Universal human dignity is a null entity as far as Islam is concerned.

Does Islam agree that we are all entitled to full freedom; equal rights & citizenship ensured by civil legislation? This is impossible because Islam does not recognize civil legislation.  Only Allah has the right to rule, delegated to his Messenger, whose word is final. Of course, you doubt me and require proof.

  • 33:36. It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error.
    • Allah tells us that He is the only One Who has the power to create and make decisions, and there is no one who can dispute with Him in that or reverse His judgement. His saying:  (And your Lord creates whatsoever He wills and chooses,) means, whatever He wills, for what He wills, happens; and what He does not will, does not happen. All things, good and bad alike, are in His Hands and will return to Him. Allah Alone is the One Who has the Power of Creation, Knowledge and Choice
    • (It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision.) This Ayah is general in meaning and applies to all matters, i.e., if Allah and His Messenger decreed a matter, no one has the right to go against that, and no one has any choice or room for personal opinion in this case. Allah says: (But no, by your Lord, they can have no faith, until they make you judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.) (4:65) Hence the issue of going against it is addressed in such strong terms, as Allah says:  (And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed into a plain error.) This is like the Ayah: (And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment, beware, lest some Fitnah should befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them) (24:63). The Reason for Revelation

In the matter of equality: females inherit 50% a male’s portion and the testimony of two women is required to equal that of one man.

  • 4:11. Allah commands you as regards your children’s (inheritance); to the male, a portion equal to that of two females;…
  • …And if there are not two men (available), then a man and two women, such as you agree for witnesses, so that if one of them (two women) errs, the other can remind her….  2:282

Conquered Jews & Christians who retain their religion under a ‘treaty of protection’ must make annual extortion payments and are under several limitations, not being allowed to own & carry weapons, build higher than Muslims, build churches, display crosses or pray aloud in public.  See the Pact of Umar or Reliance of the Traveller, Book  O11.5.

Click this link for A Common Word between Us and You, which precipitated the recent meetings. [Note the Events section, a recent addition to the page]. A Common Word’s home page includes a summary, the missive, media reports, blog posts and various responses from Christian & Jewish leaders. Click this link: Islamic Extortion Letter for my original dissection of the missive or this link: Go Burn With Muhammad, a blog devoted to dissecting the missive and reactions to it.

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