Marines Speak Out On the Haditha Marines Case
June 14th, 2007 ·
Former Marines are speaking out!
Captain Greenlaw a retired Marine officer has written a letter about the lack of support the Haditha Marines are getting from their superiors. These good men have had their careers ruined and personal finances (and their families) drained defending against criminal charges that should never have been filed.
This first letter is from Troy Watson who issues an invitation to those who read this to show your support for these marines by forwarding Captain Greenlaw’s letter along with your comments to Lt Colonel Riggs.
Dear Marines and family,
I have copied Capt. Greenlaw’s email to LtCol Riggs below – I am giving you an opportunity to show our solidarity & agreement with all the hard work and effort that Capt Greenlaw does.
Please copy and paste his message and add your comments – if only to say that you agree wholeheartedly with Capt Greenlaw – – then email it to LtCol Riggs at this e address: RiggsB@marcent.usmc.mil.
Capt Greenlaw has been on the firing line for us and a helluva lot of other Marines for quite awhile and the ‘powers that be’ are probably thinking that he is the only one who is speaking for our Marines – I want them to know that we support Capt Greenlaw and agree with his comments and that he is not all by himself. Please take the time to send LtCol Riggs an email.
Here is Captain Greenlaw’s letter; please read and see if you agree!
This is a msg I received from another Retired Marine Officer who is unhappy about the way the Corps is now looking after their young Marines.
I, for one, have a strapping young grandson, who lives here in Oceanside and, at this point in time, I would not recommend that he join the Corps. If this everlasting circus going on with K/3/1 & K/3/5 continues much longer, the Commandant is going to experience rough days ahead on recruiting and I don’t think these huge bonus’ he’s offering will entice these young, very intelligent, Marines to extend or reenlist, as we did years ago, when we were sure our leaders were watching our 6′oclock & not locking us up for doing the job we enlisted to do and that is to fight this country’s wars.
When I read some of these articles where the Prosecutor gets some witness on the stand and they discuss bullet holes in the heads of civilians, etc., that tells me that the Prosecutor or the witness has never been in a fire fight with lead flying all around you. You put a weapon on full automatic and start firing at enemy positions that you are receiving fire from and some innocents are bound to get killed. War is hell. Some body ought to educate this Mr. Parks, the DOD expert, who supposedly wrote the “rules of war”. Give this Mr. Parks an M-16 & Flak Jacket, send him in- country, put him on the line with the Sgt’s, Cpl’s, Pfc’s & 2ndLt’s and let’s see what he can do. I think he will come back and re-write the book. I’ve attended 3 or 4 of these hearings and the Bacos trial. Very rarely, if ever, do you see a Defense Counsel get up and object or do anything. It has all appearances of a well scripted Broadway Play.
It would now appear we have lost two good 2ndLt’s. First, it was Patano and if Phan is smart, he will resign his commission. His career has now been wrecked by thoughtless actions of those who should have stood by his side.
V/R & S/F,
Don Greenlaw Captain,
USMC(Ret’d) Marine Mustang
Here are Troy Watson’s comments he forwarded along with Captain Greenlaw’s letter;
Dear LtCol Riggs,
I am sending my 2bits along with the email you received from Capt Greenlaw. It is my fear that because Capt Greenlaw is fighting battles on behalf of Marines in trouble – that you will ignore his comments or that you may think that he is ‘all by himself’ – – I hope this email will clear up that notion if that has been your thoughts and hopes.
Don Greenlaw, on his own volition and because of the helluva Marine that he has always been -has become a spokesperson for 100’s of Marines who absolutely agree with him 100% as I do and we all are very appreciative of his efforts.
I have always been on the firing line touting our Marine Corps to young folks wherever I go and encouraging them to enlist in the finest. I have to admit that I have not been doing that for over a year now – quite frankly, have been very po’d off about the way the Haditha Marines have been treated and think its a damned shame – it seems like they are getting railroaded and have been since the very beginning. There are two young folks that I visit with at the local grocery store (Sprouts) and they see me with my MC shirts and covers and are continually asking me about whether or not they should join the Corps. I have not been very encouraging in light of the forementioned.
I served in Korea during 1952 with E 2 7, 1st Mar Div as a machine gunner receiving a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart. I guarantee you we had great leadership back then – very firm but also always taking care of us.
Here is an excerpt of a letter that expresses concerns for the Corps ability and desire to take care of their own (edited to remove personal names/details);
Subject: Re: Fw: “THE CORPS”
Thanks (name removed) , I needed that. I am so disappointed in the Marine Corps leadership these days that it nearly breaks my heart. The Commandant recently sent a letter asking all retired Marines to help with recruiting.
I’m sorry General Conway, I can’t in all good conscience suggest to a Mother that the Marine Corps will take good care of her son. […]
Another letter of support and this letter points out how these Marines have been judged GUILTY before they have had a trial of even a hearing.
I am writing this letter in support of all the things that, Capt. Greenlaw has stated in his letter, As you know, the Capt. was a former mustang and has been my friend and the spokesman for all of the old red hats that attend most functions at Camp Pendleton.
I am a former Marine Sgt.who saw action in Korea including stints on, Bunker Hill, Reno, Carson and Vegas. I am familiar with the , ROE’S and believe me when you are fighting any enemy, you must engage when fired upon. We did not have the same restrictions as todays troops have.
I am the Sr. Vice Commander with the XXXXX county XXXX Org. I am also a member of two Marine Clubs and the reunion coordinator for, XXXXX vets. In my daily communications with combat Marine veterans, I have yet to find one that is not appalled at the treatment of the Haditha Marines and spouses.
First,it appears that they were convicted before they got back from Iraq. Yes convicted by “Senator Murtha’, and the press. I still remember seeing, Lt Col Chessani holding his new baby when they returned. He wasn’t allowed to finish his leave before being releaved of duty for lack of confidence.
I have spoken to most of his troops before and after deployment and they would follow him to hell as I would. This is such a tragedy. When did the Corp. start eating it’s own? This is too political. I am afraid of what is happening to our Corp. I am sure that recruiting will be affected because of,”lack of confidence.”
The young men volunteering to extend their deployment is commendable,but I am afraid it is out of loyalty to their buddies and not to the Corp.
Sir, I apologize for rambling but my feelings are strong,as are those of my friends. We know and respect Gen. Mattis and his fine reputation as a excellent and fair leader. If possible, I would appreciate it if you would forward this letter to him on his return. I know the ultimate decisions on this whole trial event will end up in his hands.
It is my sincere feelings that he will make the correct judgement on these men. I know there must be alot of political pressure on this case,but as a group of combat vets we all believe this whole thing was a farce and unjust to all Marines.
Lets correct this in the name of justice.
God bless these men and our Corp.
former Sgt. USMC
The disservice and damage the MSM and Rep John Murtha have done to the Armed Forced and to the Haditha Marines in particular is shameful. Equally shameful is the Marine Corps reluctance to take care of there own. Please take a few moments to express your concern about the Haditha Marines case to Col Riggs at RiggsB@marcent.usmc.mil. Then please pass along to others to do the same.
Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:31 PM
Special day for me. My Dad was shot down over Normandy as he flew over the area dropping off paratroopers. He was the guy in charge of making sure all the men got off and out. When they got hit, my Dad and the co-pilot got the dead and wounded out of the plane. Then my Dad pushed the co-pilot out. He then went to the cockpit and latched onto the pilot, dragged him aft, hooked him up and pushed him out. My Dad was the last man out.
Obviously, my Dad survived the ordeal and after 3 days walking around France with his 45 at the ready, he found a British contingent and made it back to England after about a week.
Yes, today is a special day to me and the rest of the world.
Great Video Here (FDR’s prayer in the audio)
There is a fantastic article here written about the invasion of Normandy and other beaches and discusses what “might have been” had emotions gotten the better part of valor and mission accomplishments.
What if American and Allied Forces withdrew from France when the going got really rough and what similarities can be drawn today?
FDR’s Prayer, delivered June 6, 1944
My Fellow Americans:
Last night, when I spoke with you about the fall of Rome, I knew at that moment that troops of the United States and our Allies were crossing the Channel in another and greater operation. It has come to pass with success thus far.
And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer:
Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.
Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.
They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph.
They will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest — until the victory is won. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men’s souls will be shaken with the violences of war.
For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and goodwill among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.
Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.
And for us at home — fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas, whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them — help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.
Many people have urged that I call the nation into a single day of special prayer. But because the road is long and the desire is great, I ask that our people devote themselves in a continuance of prayer. As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts.
Give us strength, too — strength in our daily tasks, to redouble the contributions we make in the physical and the material support of our armed forces.
And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.
And, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee; faith in our sons; faith in each other; faith in our united crusade. Let not the keeness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment — let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.
With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogances. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace — a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all of men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil.
Thy will be done, Almighty God.
Franklin D. Roosevelt – June 6, 1944
GREAT piece on this day by Victor Davis Hanson
Monday, May 28, 2007 9:26 PM
May 24th, 2007
In the spring of 2003, before the war in Iraq had even begun, we would see a group of protesters flying the flag upside down, every Sunday, on the same corner as we came home from church in California. While my husband, Air Force Veteran, Jerry English, wanted to get some friends and march them into the nearby sea, cooler heads (Mine!) prevailed;we both have very strong feelings about our Flag! But we wanted to do something to let our local military people know that they were supported. We came up with the idea of printing out on our computer a simple business card.
On one side it simply says THANK YOU with a couple small graphics of the USA flag and a Ribbon with Flag motif. On the back of the card we printed:
During difficult times America’s finest have put on the uniform of the U.S. Military. Your service is appreciated. Thank You! God Bless you and yours!
As we started handing them out we realized that we could never get to all of them so we decided to have a RALLY FOR AMERICA / SUPPORT THE TROOPS and it was held March 22, 2003. The media found it to be so odd that they covered it (in advance / and the day of) and we had about 500 people show up! It was awesome. We did another for Armed Forces Day and again for Sept 11th / WE REMEMBER.
We took down names and emails and when Christmas 2003 came around we had sent off 1,167 cards filled with a pack of cocoa or tea and a note of support to a Lt.Col. in Iraq. They were distributed and we got wonderful letters back from the troops! That was a lot of fun so we did it again for Valentines Day; over 1,000 cards. By this time
I had done many media interviews and they kept asking for a name of our group. We decided on CARDS AND COCOA FOR THE TROOPS. But after that we started sending all the important goodies. Beef jerky, wet wipes and Chocolate when it wasn’t to hot.
We have continued to have our March rally and Sept 11th rally for the last five years. We have also shipped off over 5 TONS of goodies to Iraq and Afghanistan. Our group of volunteers numbers about 200 and we have done it all without a committee meeting or being a non-profit or having a web site. After we took on an official name I did get some separate cards printed via vistaprint.com ( 250 cards / free / pay $5 forshipping ) and that has our contacts.
(Military parking permits are Blue for Officer and Red for Enlisted.
Other colors are people who work on the base but are not military!)
We frequently stick them in drivers door jams (with the flag showing!) so it is a treat to find when they come out of the store. We also look for veterans who are wearing their baseball hats stating when / where they served. We have had many an emotional moment giving them a card.
We encourage people to make their own versions of the THANK YOU cards. (If you would like one, please email email@example.com)
We have also tied in with Move America Forward and gone at least part ofthe way on two caravans, including this last one in March that met up with the Eagles at the Wall. We had our 5th Annual Rally for America / We SUPPORT THE TROOPS AND THEIR MISSION also on the 17th of March, here locally.
It is exciting to find that more and more people are willing to take thetime to stand up and be vocal in support of our troops!
Proud to be an American!
Cindy Stanley & Jerry English
-Cards and Cocoa for the Troops Organizers-
“I am only One.
I can not do everything.
But I can do something.
And I will not let
what I can not do
interfere with what I can do.”
-Edward Everett Hale
Monday, May 28, 2007 9:24 PM
May 23rd, 2007
Kate O’Malley, columnist for Human Events Online and proud fellow Eagle, has a great column up this morning. The article explores the motives behind people like Dan Frasier, an antiwar activist who has produced T-shirts with the slogan “Bush Lied, Soldiers Died,” on top of a list of soldiers who have given their lives in Iraq.
He is making money off these fallen heroes, although according to his website, he isn’t really a very good capitalist, “In fact, it is not clear that the shirts have generated any profits at all. Much of the first batch of shirts was sold at a deep discount. The shirts were complex to design and expensive to produce. The cost of the shirts has been kept as low as possible to encourage sales and spread the important message. Of course, this product is not meant to be a statement on behalf of the families or the fallen soldiers?? said Frasier in an open letter on his website.
Okay, I will admit that I was not an economics major, so maybe I am missing something here. The shirt is not making much a profit because our friend Dan wants to encourage sales to spread the important political message he believes in, but the message is somehow not meant to be a statement on behalf of the men and women who appear on his shirt. So Dan isn’t doing this for the money, he is doing it to spread a political message. So this isn’t actually a product as much as it is an advertising tool.
Arrrghhh….my head hurts. Those rascally lefties! Dan isn’t a capitalist after all, he is a political activist! Darn, I knew it was too good to be true.
The article is sarcastic and amusing, yes, but it’s also heart wrenching. Katie skillfully reminds us of what the results of the left’s version of “free speech” are.
Frasier may not be a good capitalist, but he is an accomplished grave robber. He is using dead soldiers, soldiers who can’t protect themselves, to further his own personal agenda. He can do so without the censure of these men and women because they are dead. They are unprotected, unable to be heard, unable to approve or dispute his use of their names. They can not be interviewed on the nightly news to counter his association of their life’s work with his personal cause. They can not call a lawyer to demand the removal of their names nor can they demand a share of his meager profits because, as we have established, he is not a very good capitalist.It is left to the families of these fine men and women to pursue justice. It is not enough that wives and children and parents must attend funerals and empty closets of personal effects. They must now bear the injustice of a political activist aligning their loved ones with a belief and for a cause that they had no opportunity to endorse or dispute.
Cindy Sheehan may be the most well-known grave robber right now, but she is not the only one. People like Dan Frasier, Gael Murphy, and many more are making money and (excuse the pun) capitalizing on the sacrificial love of American soldiers and Marines.
How amazing would it be to live in a nation that wholeheartedly supports her troops and their mission? How incredible would it be to know that your countrymen, to a man, love and honor you for the sacrifices you make? How much easier would it be to approach the battlefield, knowing that those you defend know in their hearts every single day that your job is noble, it is amazing, it is honorable?
Someday, perhaps we will live in that country again. Hope springs eternal.
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Monday, May 28, 2007 9:18 PM
May 20th, 2007
While Eagles nationwide were standing up to support our recruiters yesterday, GOE-NY had a special mission. They were countering antiwar leftists in Times Square. The moonbats were planning to show up and do what they called “Torture Theater,” or a “reenactment” of the “torture” that terrorist detainees are undergoing at Gitmo. Never mind that there IS no torture at Gitmo. Never mind that as we speak, three of our nation’s soldiers are undergoing the most horrific torture imaginable at the hands of the enemy. These antiwar leftists have no couth, no respect, no love for our soldiers in harm’s way.
That’s why GOE-NY had to shut them down.
Eagles representing five states–and from as far away as North Carolina–converged on Times Square yesterday to answer the threat, and Dan Maloney, GOE-NY Coordinator, had a preliminary report on the event.
It was a GREAT day in Times Square!
We performed the ORA portion of our activity on schedule and the recruiters were very interested in hearing about GOE. The Company Commander for the NY area was there and invited us to talk at one of their affairs. Dr. Rauol’s gracious delivery of heros were a big hit and the recruiters came out later to enjoy the spectacle of us facing off against the moonbats saying it was the first time in recent memory when they could venture outside during a demonstration at their location.
Then the REAL fun began!
The Moonbats finally showed up to stage their anti-Gitmo street theater and found that we had secured the ground and would not let them get more than a foothold on it. They had to split their forces between a small group at the narrow point of the traffic island away from the recruiting station and on a street corner a block away.
We totally overwhelmed the small contingent immediately to our front while a small group of ours infiltrated their street theater act and poked fun at their representation of Guantanamo. You will notice our infiltrators in photos wearing orange ‘Club Gitmo’ t-shirts with snarky blurbs on the back.
We had passersby chanting USA! with us, we greeted several Iraq veterans and current duty servicemen as they passed by, we met a lady from Australia and a Lebanese man living in Germany who cheered us on. It was just a wonderful and fun time for every one of us. We handed out hundreds of our flyer describing what we were doing there today and inviting people to New London and West Point.
The point at which the moonbats slunk away was when we chanted “Where’s your flag!” and then deployed a giant American flag while we sang America the Beautiful and Star Spangled Banner before reciting the pledge of allegiance.
In all the action lasted mainly from 11:00am to 4:30pm. Some over achievers (I’m looking at you Jim B.!) staked out the ground at 8am!
Photos of the “Torture Theater” and GOE infiltrators (Warning! Righteous fury alert!)
Some of the folks in attendance:
Natl Exec Officer Larry Hoffa and his lovely wife and daughter.
VT State Coordinator and her handsome and protective son (who both served as infiltrators!)
CT State Coordinator and early riser Jim Bancroft.
NY Rockland County Coordinator (which I will make formal in the am) Jim Ferguson (who drives the camo Volvo wagon to annoy moonbats).
NY Queens County Coordinator Sean Delevan and his two young sons.
The NY half of the NJ Rapid Reaction Team, The Great Fernando!
The unsinkable and intrepid Pamela Hall of United American Committee.
The magnificent Dr. Raoul of Free Republic posing as a NY Times Reporter who would Lie for Food(who also sprang for lunch for the recruiters and wouldn’t accept any remuneration)
The Protest Warriors guys who loved mixing it up with the moonbats!
Tom Dolan who masterminded the creative banners which dominated the field.
All the Freepers, Toni, Jennie, Anthony to name just a few.
Desiree ‘The Voice’ who is simply amazing.
And everyone else whose names would be just too many to list in this brief update.
New York Coordinator
Stay tuned for Dan’s in-depth report, coming later today!
Monday, May 28, 2007 9:14 PM
May 23rd, 2007
The AP took a photo of Eagles at the USCG graduation event, and we’re proud to post it here. That’s our very own George Samek, with a snappy salute and a peace duck. Good job, George, and good job to all the Eagles who made the trip from so many states to be there and support our military and our President.
Monday, May 28, 2007 9:04 PM
“Local men and women charged with replenishing the country’s military in the face of rising disapproval got a break Wednesday when they were honored for their work.”
“Military recruiters from the Air Force, Army and Marine Corps who work in the Central Coast are honored for their service Wednesday in Monterey during an event titled ‘Operation Recruiter Appreciation Day.’