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King Hearing: Ellison’s Excuses

This video features a Congressman and a comedian discussing Islam. I won’t accept either of them as an authoritative source.  For the purpose of this post I ignore the comedian’s comments and questions, concentrating on the Congressman’s misrepresentations.   Thanks and a tip of the hat to Logan’s Warning.

“They’re not getting it from the Qur’an, lets use this point for a moment, because as you know as a student of religion, books are complex, they are compiled, taking them out of context is a very easy thing to do.

Why don’t you read the part where it says that anyone who takes a life its as if he killed the whole world and anyone who saves a life its as if he saves the whole world?

What about the one where it says that there should be no compulsion in religion and that its literally wrong…

Like any ideologue, they will take things out of context. to do what they want to do.  If you listen  to terrorist rhetoric, Bill, what they do is they cite politics, they cite political grievances, they don’t really do too much religion, as a matter of fact, when you find Muslims who reject terrorism  as I do and almost everyone does, its often its for spiritual and religious reasons, and moral reasons; but people who want to justify it, they justify it on political reasons.  This is well documented, check out the Gallop poll check out and study this stuff. One of the things that I think we can do to undermine terrorist ideology is actually to use people who know the Qur’an and to go after people like Anwar al-Awlaki who misquote it, misuse it and don’t really understand it. “

Ellison asserts that terrorists don’t get their doctrine from the Qur’an.  In fact, that is their primary source, which I detailed in a recent blog post:
Terrorism is an Intrinsic Sacrament of Islam.  Allah said that he would cast terror, did cast terror resulting in the enslavement of one Jewish village and the destruction of another. Moe said that the was made victorious by terror.  Allah commanded Muslims to terrify their victims.

The Qur’an was not written, it was spoken; it is a partial record of Moe’s rabble rousing rants, arranged according to the length of the chapters, not thematically or chronologically.  Allah’s commands are contained in clear verses,  Tafsir Ibn Kathir has some guidance for us.

[…]The Muhkamat are the Ayat that explain the abrogating rulings, the allowed, prohibited, laws, limits, obligations and rulings that should be believed in and implemented. As for the Mutashabihat Ayat, they include the abrogated Ayat, parables, oaths, and what should be believed in, but not implemented.[…] The Mutashabihat and Muhkamat Ayat

When they quote Allah with “Allah said…”, quoting the jihad imperatives, they are not quoting out of context; 8:39, 8:57, 8:60 & 9:29 are commands, to be believed in and implemented.

5:33 is a favorite of deceivers.  Take a close look at it and its successor, which they never quote.  Why do they cite this one verse out of context?  Because they are practicing kitman: deception by obfuscation.

5:32. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!.

5:33. The recompense of those who wage war against Allâh and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.

The Punishment of those Who Cause Mischief in the Land […]`Wage war’ mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways. Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil.[…]

Waging war against Allah includes disbelief, subjecting the disbeliever to being killed or mutilated.  Now do you have a clue why Muslims select 5:32, avoiding 33?

No compulsion in religion?  Yeah, right.

2:256. There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

10:99. And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed, all of them together. So, will you (O Muhammad ) then compel mankind, until they become believers.

Who quotes the Qur’an selectively, out of context?  I will show you what nobody else will. Read and learn from this verse which reveals the truth and hadith which explains it so that anyone not using his brain for a butt plug can comprehend it.

3:110. You [true believers in Islâmic Monotheism, and real followers of Prophet Muhammad  and his Sunnah (legal ways, etc.)] are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind; you enjoin Al-Ma’rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm has ordained) and forbid Al-Munkar (polytheism, disbelief and all that Islâm has forbidden), and you believe in Allâh. And had the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) believed, it would have been better for them; among them are some who have faith, but most of them are Al-Fâsiqûn (disobedient to Allâh – and rebellious against Allâh’s Command).

3:111. They will do you no harm, barring a trifling annoyance; and if they fight against you, they will show you their backs, and they will not be helped.

3:112. Indignity is put over them wherever they may be, except when under a covenant (of protection) from Allâh, and from men; they have drawn on themselves the Wrath of Allâh, and destruction is put over them. This is because they disbelieved in the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh and killed the Prophets without right. This is because they disobeyed (Allâh) and used to transgress beyond bounds (in Allâh’s disobedience, crimes and sins).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 80:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Verse:–“You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind.” means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.

Bukhari  Ch 61 # 2756: …It is mentioned from Ibn ‘Umar from the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, “My provision has been placed under the shadow of my spear, and abasement and humility have been placed on the one who disobeys my command.

Take a good look at 3:110 and Bukhari 6.60.80. Bringing us with chains on our necks until we embrace Islam is not consistent with “no compulsion”.  3:111 indicates Moe’s intention to attack the neighboring Christians.

Note the how the highlighted phrases in 3:112; how they are congruent with those in the quote from Aisha Bewley’s translation of Bukhari. Khan bowdlerized that hadith; Bewley did not.

Muslims are not permitted to reject terrorism.  Islam is a package deal, all or nothing.

2:85. After this, it is you who kill one another and drive out a party of you from their homes, assist (their enemies) against them, in sin and transgression. And if they come to you as captives, you ransom them, although their expulsion was forbidden to you. Then do you believe in a part of the Scripture and reject the rest? Then what is the recompense of those who do so among you, except disgrace in the life of this world, and on the Day of Resurrection they shall be consigned to the most grievous torment. And Allâh is not unaware of what you do.

13:36. Those to whom We have given the Book (such as ‘Abdullâh bin Salâm and other Jews who embraced Islâm), rejoice at what has been revealed unto you (i.e. the Qur’ân) , but there are among the Confederates (from the Jews and pagans) those who reject a part thereof. Say (O Muhammad ): “I am commanded only to worship Allâh (Alone) and not to join partners with Him. To Him (Alone) I call and to Him is my return.”

Islamic law is explicit on this matter, Reliance of the Traveller contains a list of twenty acts which entail apostasy, the punishment for which is execution.

-7- to deny any verse of the Koran or anything which by scholarly consensus (def: b7) belongs to it, or to add a verse that does belong to it;

Rejection of terrorism: 8:39, 8:57, 8:60, 33:26, 59:2 & 59:13 warrants the death penalty!  Ellison claims to embrace morality & doing good deeds. There is a related verse he won’t cite for you but I will. Acts of terrorism are good deeds according to Allah.

9:120. It was not becoming of the people of Al-Madinah and the bedouins of the neighbourhood to remain behind Allâh’s Messenger (Muhammad  when fighting in Allâh’s Cause) and (it was not becoming of them) to prefer their own lives to his life. That is because they suffer neither thirst nor fatigue, nor hunger in the Cause of Allâh, nor they take any step to raise the anger of disbelievers nor inflict any injury upon an enemy but is written to their credit as a deed of righteousness. Surely, Allâh wastes not the reward of the Muhsinûn.

Any act to enrage or injure disbelievers is imputed to Muslims as a deed of righteousness!!!  Islam  is a lie. Muslims are liars. Muslims are terrorists.  Do not take my word for it; click the links and read the citations in context. Then contact your Congressman & Senators; disrespectfully  demand that Islam be stripped of its ‘religion’ status & outlawed and Muslims be expelled & excluded.

March 13, 2011 Posted by | Islam, Political Correctness | , , , , | Leave a comment


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