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Ahamedinejad Spews Feces

Ahmadinejad spewed feces to the National Press Club and Columbia University September 24, 2007. The most important excrement was spewed at NPC, so most of the excerpts I will site come from that incident. The Israel Project has made transcripts available.Click here for National Press Club transcript. Click here for Columbia University transcript.

Samples of Ahmadinejad’s excrement are contained in a bulleted list. Superscripts are inserted to link evidence and comments. Click the superscript; click your Back button to return to the quote. [Emphasis mine.]

  • Continuous wars have, in fact, hurt the human spirit1. I believe if we look at the root cause2 of some of these problems, we will be able to think of how to build a better future, a more prosperous future based on peace and security for all humanity.
  • The Almighty God has replaced man on — has replaced his position with man’s position on Earth. As his representative, He gave dignity to him and respect3 and called on mankind to make every effort to move towards a prosperous life4 and to walk on the sublime path that will help achieve it. God placed man on Earth has His representative, and to guide him, He sent His prophets. God placed the world in man’s hand and helped man control it, gave man talents with the ability to grow those talents, and placed no limits on man’s progress in that respect.
  • And those who believe in this God will believe in peace and will achieve peace5. Those whose seek the approval of this God will never have fear or concerns.
  • Following God means to respect the rights of others, to render respect and kindness to others6, to engage in pious acts and behaviors, to remember God. Following God means wanting the best for all others, to invite them to good and to tell them to refrain from bad.7
  • When a group are not satisfied about their rights, they will become aggressors.8
  • When the boundaries of people is broken and security is robbed from them, that’s when the threat of arms and nuclear arms overshadows the tranquility that mankind had before; insecurity prevails.9 And when security is taken away, the talents are no longer flourished, the happiness and joy of life is replaced by fear, insecurity prevents man’s progressive development, and it distorts man’s vision from achieving its sublime path — goal.
  • So from a divine perspective as well as from a humane perspective, insecurity, violence, terror are not all simple challenges or perhaps one of oppression or deviation from the collective rights of individuals and people, so that that is not just simply the case; rather, it goes broader. That level of insecurity is oppressing mankind in its totality. 10
  • We have to look at the rights of man, the needs of mankind and the dignity of mankind.11
  • I believe in setting up a prosperous future, the role of the press is very important. The press plays a connecting role, and it provides information and promotes — can serve as a channel for promoting correct thinking. The role of the press is to disseminate moral behavior, to disseminate goodness, purity, honesty, peace, security and all positive messages that arise from that. And this role is extremely significant; God forbid — they must prevent the dissemination of hatred and impurity and insecurity, for in that sense, too, they play a very sensitive role.12
  • There are some powerful groups that do not allow that. Their interest rests in belittling mankind. Their interest rests in the unawareness of mankind. Their interest rests in controlling the free flow of information. Their interest rests on attacking and aggressing other nations and the rights of other people. Their interest rests on producing weapons and to sell those weapons and arms. But our human responsibility requires us to reflect on the reality and truth as it is, and bring the message of peace and friendship for all humanity. I hope that we will all succeed in our efforts.13
  • We think that all religions and all divine religions have the same message. They all come from the same place. They have several clear messages: to invite man to worship God, which is the root of all goodness; to invite man to justice, which guarantees love, friendship and viable security; to invite man to dignity and to respect of mankind; to invite man to love the rest of mankind. These messages are set in the religion of Christ — of Moses and Christ as well as the holy passage of Islam. These prophets have all given the same messages. They never had differences in that respect. There was never a conflict there because their root goes back to the same — (word inaudible) — and their message was the same as well.14

[Excerpts from Columbia University follow:]

  • Oh, God, hasten the arrival of Imam al- Mahdi and grant him good health and victory, and make us his followers and those who attest to his (rightfulness ?).15
  • There are many scholars who are aware of the realities but do not accept them. Their selfishness does not allow them to accept those realities. Did those who in the course of human history wage wars not understand the reality that lives, properties, dignity, territories and the rights of all human beings should be respected? Or did they understand it but neither have faith in nor abide by it?16
  • And I raised two questions. But instead of a response, I got a wave of insults and allegations against me, and regretfully, they came mostly from groups who claimed most to believe in the freedom of speech and the freedom of information. You know quite well that Palestine is an old wound, as old as 60 years.17

    For 60 years, these people are displaced; for 60 years, these people are being killed; for 60 years, on a daily basis, there’s conflict and terror; for 60 years, innocent women and children are destroyed and killed by helicopters and airplanes that break the house over their heads; for 60 years, children in kindergartens in schools, in high schools are in prison being tortured; for 60 years, security in the Middle East has been in danger; for 60 years, the slogan of expansionism from the Nile to the Euphrates has been chanted by certain groups in that part of the world. 18

  • The Palestinian people didn’t commit any crime.19 They had no role to play in World War II.20 They were living with the Jewish communities and the Christian communities in peace at the time. They didn’t have any problems. And today, too, Jews, Christians and Muslims live in brotherhood all over the world,21 in many parts of the world. They don’t have any serious problems.

    But why is it that the Palestinians should pay a price, innocent Palestinians?22 For 5 million people to remain displaced or refugees of war for 60 years are — is this not a crime?23 Is asking about these crimes a crime by itself? Why should an academic, myself, face insults when asking questions like this?24 Is this what you call freedom and upholding the freedom of thought?

  1. Continuous wars since 623; a wide swath of death & devastation perpetrated by Muslims. The history of Islam is one of war.
  2. The root cause of Islamic Imperialism is Islamic doctrine expressed in its scripture, exemplified in its traditions and confirmed in its law.
    • 8:39 And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.
    • 9:29 Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
    • Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387: Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”
    • The Reliance of the Traveller. – By Ahmad Ibn Naqib Al-Misri BOOK O: JUSTICE >> Chapter O-9.0: Jihad O-9.8: The Objectives of Jihad The caliph (o-25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o-11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High, [9:29}
    • The Reliance of the Traveller. – By Ahmad Ibn Naqib Al-Misri BOOK O: JUSTICE >> Chapter O-9.0: Jihad O-9.9 The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim (O: because they are not a people with a Book, nor honored as such, and are not permitted to settle with paying the poll tax (jizya) ) (n: though according to the Hanafi school, peoples of all other religions, even idol worshippers, are permitted to live under the protection of the Islamic state if they either become Muslim or agree to pay the poll tax, the sole exceptions to which are apostates from Islam and idol worshippers who are Arabs, neither of whom has any choice but becoming Muslim (al-Hidaya sharh Bidaya al-mubtadi’ (y-21), 6.48-49) ).
    • Al-Shafi’i (God have mercy on him) said: “The least that the imam must do is that he allow no year to pass without having organised a military expedition by himself, or by his raiding parties, according to the Muslims’ interest, so that the jihad will only be stopped in a year for a (reasonable) excuse.” He said: “If he did not undertake the sending of enough troops to fight, those who are absent (must) go out, and consider as an obligation that which God (who is praised) said.”

    Those are not open ended & unlimited commands to make unrelenting war? Then why did Muhammad confirm them? Why is Islamic law based on them? Then explain away these relevant topics from Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir:

  3. Dignity & respect?? Rights? Not in Islam, for any non-Muslim!! Our blood ain’t sacred to Muslims.
  4. Yeah, Allah wants Muslims to be prosperous!
    • 2:212. Beautified is the life of this world for those who disbelieve, and they mock at those who believe. But those who obey Allâh’s Orders and keep away from what He has forbidden, will be above them on the Day of Resurrection. And Allâh gives (of His Bounty, Blessings, Favours, Honours, etc. on the Day of Resurrection) to whom He wills without limit.
    • 4:74. Let those (believers) who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter fight in the Cause of Allâh, and whoso fights in the Cause of Allâh, and is killed or gets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward.
    • 4:77. Have you not seen those who were told to hold back their hands (from fighting) and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat­as­Salât), and give Zakât, but when the fighting was ordained for them, behold! a section of them fear men as they fear Allâh or even more. They say: “Our Lord! Why have you ordained for us fighting? Would that you had granted us respite for a short period?” Say: “Short is the enjoyment of this world. The Hereafter is (far) better for him who fears Allâh, and you shall not be dealt with unjustly even equal to the Fatilâ (a scalish thread in the long slit of a date­stone).
    • 8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allâh desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

    What did Muhammad want? What did Allah want him to have? What did Muhammad need to do to earn it? By the way, how was Muhammad made wealthy? “When Allah made the Prophet wealthy through conquestsHow did Muhammad make his living? Wait, there’s more!!

  5. * Topic explained by internal reference
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  8. Muslims, deprived of their right to appropriate our property, resort to violence.
  9. Whose boundaries were broken? When? By whom ?
    • Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 392: Narrated Abu Huraira: While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, “Let us go to the Jews” We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, “If you embrace Islam, you will be safe.You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that .”
    • Abu Dawud 14.2477 Narrated Ibn Hawalah: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: It will turn out that you will be armed troops, one is Syria, one in the Yemen and one in Iraq. Ibn Hawalah said: Choose for me, Apostle of Allah, if I reach that time. He replied: Go to Syria, for it is Allah’s chosen land, to which his best servants will be gathered but if you are unwilling, go to your Yemen, and draw water from your tanks, for Allah has on my account taken special charge of Syria and its people.

    Did you make the connection yet? What province did Caliph Umar conquer in 638? Whad did he do to the indigenous Christian & Jewish populations? Go now and read Article 11 of the Hamas Charter.

  10. That sentence is a jumble of meaningless rhetoric. Be patient, we are nearing the juicy stuff.
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  12. Disseminating Hatred? Impurity? That is an opaque reference to ‘Islamophobia’. Ahmadinejad is demanding censorship of our free press! He demands blasphemy laws to suppress criticism of Islam!
  13. The group “attacking and aggressing other nations and the rights of other people” is Islam. Here, Ahmadinejad is practicing projection, accusing his victims of his own offense. Islam brings war, not peace & friendship.
  14. Same message? What was Christ’s message? What must one do to be saved? How does a Muslim do to obtain salvation? Read 8:67 again!!! If you doubt this, go to , search for reward and read all 1212 references. Your reward is eternity in the celestial bordello and you obtain it by being killed in battle against Kuffar. Ahmadinejad believes you to be an ignorant, gullible fool. Does that description fit you?
  15. Madhi is the expected Muslim Messiah, to arrive prior to the end of the world.
    • Muslim Book 36, Number 4271:

      Narrated Umm Salamah, Ummul Mu’minin: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The Mahdi will be of my family, of the descendants of Fatimah. Abdullah ibn Ja’far said: I heard AbulMalih praising Ali ibn Nufayl and describing his good qualities.

    • Muslim Book 36, Number 4272:

      Narrated AbuSa’id al-Khudri: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The Mahdi will be of my stock, and will have a broad forehead a prominent nose. He will fill the earth will equity and justice as it was filled with oppression and tyranny, and he will rule for seven years.

    • Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 425:

      Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts.

    Guess which book Jesus is going to judge by. Gues what else must happen before Judgement day. Perhaps you should find a good Hadith search engine and look up the portents of the hour.

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  17. Palestine? There is no such place!!! That name was attached to Israel as an insult after the Bar Kochba Rebellion was suppressed by the Romans. Palestinian means Jew, not Muslim. Go to and read the history.
  18. How about “From the River to the Sea”? Does that have meaning for you? When did the Hebron Massacre take place? Did the State of Israel exist then? Were the Fallestinians occupied? What the Hell is their excuse? Didn’t the Jews have a right to overthrow their occupiers & oppressors?
  19. True! The Jews did not commit any crime!
  20. Jews were victims in WW2. Fallestinians were allied with Hitler. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem went to Germany to beg Hitler to ship Levantine Jews to the death camps. He even established a Bosnean Muslim SS group.
  21. Not where Muslims rule! I bet you have not read the Pact of Umar. Abu DawudBook 41, Number 5186:

    Narrated AbuHurayrah: Suhayl ibn AbuSalih said: I went out with my father to Syria. The people passed by the cloisters in which there were Christians and began to salute them. My father said: Do not give them salutation first, for AbuHurayrah reported the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: Do not salute them (Jews and Christians) first, and when you meet them on the road, force them to go to the narrowest part of it.

  22. Palestinians are Jews, not Fallestinians!!! Palestine is Israel!!! Why should Jews suffer for Muslim’s conquest of 638 and fighting on the Axis side in WW1???
  23. Damn well its a crime, a crime commited by Islamic states such as Egypt & Jordan who will not repatriate their citizens who fled Israel on their orders so that the Arab League could exterminate the Jews without collateral damage.
  24. Because the question itself is an insult to the intelligence of every civilized person with even superficial knowledge of the history of the region!!! You are practicing projection, al-taqeyya and kitman all at once. Freedom of thought? How about freedom of belief? How about freedom of conscience? “Only Allah has the right to be worshiped” ! 3:2. Allâh! Lâ ilahâ illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. 3:85. And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. And we are to be fought until only Allah is worshiped? Go to Hell and be damned, liar!!!

September 25, 2007 Posted by | Ahmadinejad, Ahmedinejad, Islam, Jihad | 14 Comments

Myth vs Fact

Myth Fact
Islam: Religion of peace. 24:53 They swear by Allâh their strongest oaths, that if only you would order them, they would leave (their homes for fighting in Allâh’s Cause). Say: “Swear you not; (this) obedience (of yours) is known (to be false). Verily, Allâh knows well what you do.”
Tafsir The Treachery of the Hypocrites and the Attitude of the Believers

September 25, 2007 Posted by | Islam, Jihad, Religion of Peace | Leave a comment


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